solo safe again

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solo safe again

Steve Sparrow

2015-03-04 02:20:04 UTC

Hi gys.
Well i thought i had this one sorted out.But i can’t seem to solo safe anything.
Here’s the go. i have my cursor tracking on. i am in the mix window, i’ve interacted with the track, found the solo button, hit vo command f 5. then i hit command and the left mouse button, nothing is happening. I may be moving the mouse, but i don’t think so. one strange thing is, after hitting vo command f 5, i then hit vo f 5 and it did not tell me the solo button was under the mouse. How ever i have not used that key stroke before, so don’t know if it ever did in yosemetees.
Any thoughts guys.
Steve

Slau Halatyn

2015-03-04 13:56:48 UTC

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Two things you might want to check is whether you have any other open windows. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 to bring up a list of open windows. Make sure you only have the Mix or Mix and Edit windows open. Also, Use Control-Option-f1 f1 to make sure you don't have system dialogs or notifications blocking your access. Further, you might try zooming the Mix window and, finally, select the scroll to track function from the Tracks menu. With mouse pointer following the VoiceOver cursor, you should be able to perform the physical click.

Slau

Post by Steve Sparrow
Hi gys.
Well i thought i had this one sorted out.But i can’t seem to solo safe anything.
Here’s the go. i have my cursor tracking on. i am in the mix window, i’ve interacted with the track, found the solo button, hit vo command f 5. then i hit command and the left mouse button, nothing is happening. I may be moving the mouse, but i don’t think so. one strange thing is, after hitting vo command f 5, i then hit vo f 5 and it did not tell me the solo button was under the mouse. How ever i have not used that key stroke before, so don’t know if it ever did in yosemetees.
Any thoughts guys.
Steve
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Steve Sparrow

2015-03-05 05:31:55 UTC

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cool Slau. thanks. I’m sure these instructions will work for me. will have a good look through it.
Thanks again
Steve

Post by Slau Halatyn
Two things you might want to check is whether you have any other open windows. Use Control-Option-f2 f2 to bring up a list of open windows. Make sure you only have the Mix or Mix and Edit windows open. Also, Use Control-Option-f1 f1 to make sure you don't have system dialogs or notifications blocking your access. Further, you might try zooming the Mix window and, finally, select the scroll to track function from the Tracks menu. With mouse pointer following the VoiceOver cursor, you should be able to perform the physical click.
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Chad Morrison

2015-03-05 16:31:06 UTC

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I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn’t work very well. try hiding the tracks you don’t want to change anything on and give it a go.
hth

Slau Halatyn

2015-03-05 18:19:33 UTC

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Good point. Keep in mind that VoiceOver sometimes "sees" things that aren't actually displayed on screen. For example, some items that are hidden within collapsed areas in certain windows.

Also, of course, having a control surface is where this stuff just isn't an issue.

Slau

Post by Chad Morrison
I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn’t work very well. try hiding the tracks you don’t want to change anything on and give it a go.
hth

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Poppa Bear

2015-03-05 18:30:55 UTC

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Is there a way to activate safe solo on control surfaces?

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Good point. Keep in mind that VoiceOver sometimes "sees" things that aren't actually displayed on screen. For example, some items that are hidden within collapsed areas in certain windows.

Also, of course, having a control surface is where this stuff just isn't an issue.

Slau

Post by Chad Morrison
I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn’t work very well. try hiding the tracks you don’t want to change anything on and give it a go.
hth

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Scott Chesworth

2015-03-05 18:38:36 UTC

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Unless it's changed recently, you can just hold down the modifier
you'd use when clicking the mouse whilst pressing the button on the
relevant channel strip of the control surface. It's neat.

Scott

Post by Poppa Bear
Is there a way to activate safe solo on control surfaces?
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Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: solo safe again
Good point. Keep in mind that VoiceOver sometimes "sees" things that aren't
actually displayed on screen. For example, some items that are hidden within
collapsed areas in certain windows.
Also, of course, having a control surface is where this stuff just isn't an issue.
Slau

I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn't work very well.
try hiding the tracks you don't want to change anything on and give it a
go.
hth

Post by Steve Sparrow
Hi gys.
Well i thought i had this one sorted out.But i can't seem to solo safe
anything.
Here's the go. i have my cursor tracking on. i am in the mix window, i've
interacted with the track, found the solo button, hit vo command f 5.
then i hit command and the left mouse button, nothing is happening. I may
be moving the mouse, but i don't think so. one strange thing is, after
hitting vo command f 5, i then hit vo f 5 and it did not tell me the solo
button was under the mouse. How ever i have not used that key stroke
before, so don't know if it ever did in yosemetees.
Any thoughts guys.
Steve
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Poppa Bear

2015-03-05 18:46:02 UTC

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I will have to try that out. It is such a pain to go through trying to identify tracks and busses when mixing, having to select and solo this and that cramps the work flow at times.

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Unless it's changed recently, you can just hold down the modifier you'd use when clicking the mouse whilst pressing the button on the relevant channel strip of the control surface. It's neat.

Scott

Post by Poppa Bear
Is there a way to activate safe solo on control surfaces?
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Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: solo safe again
Good point. Keep in mind that VoiceOver sometimes "sees" things that
aren't actually displayed on screen. For example, some items that are
hidden within collapsed areas in certain windows.
Also, of course, having a control surface is where this stuff just isn't an issue.
Slau
On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chad Morrison

I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn't work very well.
try hiding the tracks you don't want to change anything on and give
it a go.
hth

Post by Steve Sparrow
Hi gys.
Well i thought i had this one sorted out.But i can't seem to solo
safe anything.
Here's the go. i have my cursor tracking on. i am in the mix window,
i've interacted with the track, found the solo button, hit vo command f 5.
then i hit command and the left mouse button, nothing is happening.
I may be moving the mouse, but i don't think so. one strange thing
is, after hitting vo command f 5, i then hit vo f 5 and it did not
tell me the solo button was under the mouse. How ever i have not
used that key stroke before, so don't know if it ever did in yosemetees.
Any thoughts guys.
Steve
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Scott Chesworth

2015-03-05 18:51:22 UTC

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True, true. Editing in PT is fairly doable, but I should think mixing
without a surface would be a slog.

Post by Poppa Bear
I will have to try that out. It is such a pain to go through trying to
identify tracks and busses when mixing, having to select and solo this and
that cramps the work flow at times.
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Of Scott Chesworth
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: solo safe again
Unless it's changed recently, you can just hold down the modifier you'd use
when clicking the mouse whilst pressing the button on the relevant channel
strip of the control surface. It's neat.
Scott

I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn't work very well.
try hiding the tracks you don't want to change anything on and give
it a go.
hth

Post by Steve Sparrow
Hi gys.
Well i thought i had this one sorted out.But i can't seem to solo
safe anything.
Here's the go. i have my cursor tracking on. i am in the mix window,
i've interacted with the track, found the solo button, hit vo command f 5.
then i hit command and the left mouse button, nothing is happening.
I may be moving the mouse, but i don't think so. one strange thing
is, after hitting vo command f 5, i then hit vo f 5 and it did not
tell me the solo button was under the mouse. How ever i have not
used that key stroke before, so don't know if it ever did in yosemetees.
Any thoughts guys.
Steve
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Mac Egbert

2015-03-05 19:03:20 UTC

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Hi,
question.
I am near to buy the proTools software and also a controlService.
My eyes lay on the controlservice of Icon, the pro, witch is expenabel up to 32 tracks or channels.
I am thinking of buying this one.
Are there on this list any tips for do's and dont's when it comes to controlers?
I know Behringer is coming soon with one also, so I maybe will wait until I can see its features.
And what about the screen for edit and mix windows in ProTools?
Since I will do all the work myself and am as blind as can be smiley, can I have one 24 inch full Hd screen for an ocasional visitor or enginear, will that fit there needs?

Slau Halatyn

2015-03-05 20:44:16 UTC

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Hi Mac,

You mention the Icon but I think you're possibly mistaken. I've seen Icon surfaces in the $100,000 range. You might be thinking of some other surface. At any rate, the Artist series is probably the best for Pro Tools in the $1500 range. From there, you can go up to a C|24 or S3 or S6 but those will range from $5,000 to $20,000. I suspect you're looking in the lower price range.

A 24-inch screen is plenty for use with Pro Tools, especially if it's for occasional use.

Slau

Post by Mac Egbert
Hi,
question.
I am near to buy the proTools software and also a controlService.
My eyes lay on the controlservice of Icon, the pro, witch is expenabel up to 32 tracks or channels.
I am thinking of buying this one.
Are there on this list any tips for do's and dont's when it comes to controlers?
I know Behringer is coming soon with one also, so I maybe will wait until I can see its features.
And what about the screen for edit and mix windows in ProTools?
Since I will do all the work myself and am as blind as can be smiley, can I have one 24 inch full Hd screen for an ocasional visitor or enginear, will that fit there needs?
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Sean A. Cummins

2015-03-05 21:04:33 UTC

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There's now the Avid s3 for $4999 as well.
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Hi Mac,

You mention the Icon but I think you're possibly mistaken. I've seen Icon surfaces in the $100,000 range. You might be thinking of some other surface. At any rate, the Artist series is probably the best for Pro Tools in the $1500 range. From there, you can go up to a C|24 or S3 or S6 but those will range from $5,000 to $20,000. I suspect you're looking in the lower price range.

A 24-inch screen is plenty for use with Pro Tools, especially if it's for occasional use.

Slau

Poppa Bear

2015-03-05 21:21:32 UTC

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I wonder how the converters are in that one.

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There's now the Avid s3 for $4999 as well.

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Hi Mac,

You mention the Icon but I think you're possibly mistaken. I've seen Icon surfaces in the $100,000 range. You might be thinking of some other surface. At any rate, the Artist series is probably the best for Pro Tools in the $1500 range. From there, you can go up to a C|24 or S3 or S6 but those will range from $5,000 to $20,000. I suspect you're looking in the lower price range.

A 24-inch screen is plenty for use with Pro Tools, especially if it's for occasional use.

Slau

Mac Egbert

2015-03-05 21:24:42 UTC

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Hi again,
It is the:
iControls Pro from Icon. 8 tracks on the main unit and expendabel to 32. For about 1600 euro's / dollar

Post by Sean A. Cummins
There's now the Avid s3 for $4999 as well.
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From: Slau Halatyn
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Controlservice and screen question, better ask before buying ;)
Hi Mac,
You mention the Icon but I think you're possibly mistaken. I've seen Icon surfaces in the $100,000 range. You might be thinking of some other surface. At any rate, the Artist series is probably the best for Pro Tools in the $1500 range. From there, you can go up to a C|24 or S3 or S6 but those will range from $5,000 to $20,000. I suspect you're looking in the lower price range.
A 24-inch screen is plenty for use with Pro Tools, especially if it's for occasional use.
Slau

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Slau Halatyn

2015-03-05 23:13:59 UTC

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Ah, totally different from the Avid Icon surface. The Company name is Icon and I see that the surface is called the iControl.

I didn't see any mention of Pro Tools compatibility specifically but it appears to have HUI emulation so it'll probably work. I guess it depends upon whether you want great integration and functionality with Pro Tools only or whether you need to use it with other dAWs and have some integration with Pro Tools.

Slau

Post by Mac Egbert
Hi again,
iControls Pro from Icon. 8 tracks on the main unit and expendabel to 32. For about 1600 euro's / dollar

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Keith Reedy

2015-03-07 18:50:35 UTC

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Hi Mac,

I am interested in a surface to use with Logic but I can't find this unit in the us. Any ideas? I have been looking at the MCU, but I would like to give this a look.
Thanks
Keith Reedy

Post by Mac Egbert
Hi again,
iControls Pro from Icon. 8 tracks on the main unit and expendabel to 32. For about 1600 euro's / dollar

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Mac Egbert

2015-03-07 19:29:24 UTC

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Hi Keith, please go to:

https://www.icondigitalusa.com/qcon-pro

Or for a tutorial:

https://www.icondigitalusa.com/content/icon-qcon-pro-tutorial

Mac

Post by Slau Halatyn
Hi Mac,
I am interested in a surface to use with Logic but I can't find this unit in the us. Any ideas? I have been looking at the MCU, but I would like to give this a look.
Thanks
Keith Reedy

Post by Mac Egbert
Hi again,
iControls Pro from Icon. 8 tracks on the main unit and expendabel to 32. For about 1600 euro's / dollar

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Keith Reedy

2015-03-07 21:43:46 UTC

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Mac,

Thanks for the info on the QCon Pro. Looks simple and usable and $830.00 US is a good price. I hope to find some one who is using one of these.

Thanks again.
kr
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Post by Mac Egbert
https://www.icondigitalusa.com/qcon-pro
https://www.icondigitalusa.com/content/icon-qcon-pro-tutorial
Mac

Post by Mac Egbert
Hi again,
iControls Pro from Icon. 8 tracks on the main unit and expendabel to 32. For about 1600 euro's / dollar

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Steve Sparrow

2015-03-06 00:52:43 UTC

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yes it is a slog mixing with out a surface in p t. i did my first mix that way to learn a few things. But give me my mackie m c u pro. Works great with p t.
Steve

Post by Scott Chesworth
True, true. Editing in PT is fairly doable, but I should think mixing
without a surface would be a slog.

I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn't work very well.
try hiding the tracks you don't want to change anything on and give
it a go.
hth

Post by Steve Sparrow
Hi gys.
Well i thought i had this one sorted out.But i can't seem to solo
safe anything.
Here's the go. i have my cursor tracking on. i am in the mix window,
i've interacted with the track, found the solo button, hit vo command f 5.
then i hit command and the left mouse button, nothing is happening.
I may be moving the mouse, but i don't think so. one strange thing
is, after hitting vo command f 5, i then hit vo f 5 and it did not
tell me the solo button was under the mouse. How ever i have not
used that key stroke before, so don't know if it ever did in yosemetees.
Any thoughts guys.
Steve
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Steve Sparrow

2015-03-06 00:50:16 UTC

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sounds very cool.

Post by Scott Chesworth
Unless it's changed recently, you can just hold down the modifier
you'd use when clicking the mouse whilst pressing the button on the
relevant channel strip of the control surface. It's neat.
Scott

I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn't work very well.
try hiding the tracks you don't want to change anything on and give it a
go.
hth

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Slau Halatyn

2015-03-05 20:47:02 UTC

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All modifiers work with surfaces for global commands. So, selecting, soloing, record enabling, etc. can all be done by holding the appropriate modifier and pressing the function button.

Slau

Post by Poppa Bear
Is there a way to activate safe solo on control surfaces?
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: solo safe again
Good point. Keep in mind that VoiceOver sometimes "sees" things that aren't actually displayed on screen. For example, some items that are hidden within collapsed areas in certain windows.
Also, of course, having a control surface is where this stuff just isn't an issue.
Slau

Post by Chad Morrison
I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn’t work very well. try hiding the tracks you don’t want to change anything on and give it a go.
hth

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Steve Sparrow

2015-03-06 01:28:14 UTC

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thanks i’ll try that. It did work after a while when i came back to that task later in the mix.
Then i solo safe 4 tracks in succession, and could not get it working again an hour later. so i’ll try hiding the tracks next time, or i’ll try the surface.
Steve

Post by Chad Morrison
I have found if you have to many tracks showing it doesn’t work very well. try hiding the tracks you don’t want to change anything on and give it a go.
hth

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